Black box..

laynehip wrote:

nisrix wrote:

I don't know if the general public would let companies or the government get away with this but who knows, scary times ahead like always.

i think that is extremely optimistic
stephen harper could declare himself a dictator and make it law that the punishment for speeding is the death penalty and nobody would do shit all
as long as it was in the name of safety all us motherfuckers would give up every single one of our human rights and civil liberties
as long as the news was making democracy seem scary as fuck and that speeding is the most dangerous thing in the entire world i think canada would embrace canada as a dictatorship and would think death penalty for speeding is the best thing since sliced bread
people who speed even 4km/h over the limit are complete fucking scum who can kill people
innocent people!
my children could die because of your carelessness!!!
my children, my poor beautiful children!!!!
and besides even if we say a lot of people did "revolt" what the fuck are they gonna do
canada would just implement martial law and just fucking kill anyone who did revolt
and its not like the fucking people are going to do anything about it
the canadian army are so fucking brainwashed anyway i am sure they would have 0 troubles killing unarmed mothers and children if they were "traitors"
if germans who really didnt even believe in the nazi regime and were just soldiers just because were shooting babies in the head i highly doubt the canadian army would stand up for its people and save the innocent
i suppose i have strayed from putting black boxes into cars to stephen harper declaring himself a dictator so oops

ho. ly. fuck. 90% of that post was completely uncalled for and based on opinion, not fact. jesus.

Earlface wrote:

laynehip wrote:

nisrix wrote:

I don't know if the general public would let companies or the government get away with this but who knows, scary times ahead like always.

i think that is extremely optimistic
stephen harper could declare himself a dictator and make it law that the punishment for speeding is the death penalty and nobody would do shit all
as long as it was in the name of safety all us motherfuckers would give up every single one of our human rights and civil liberties
as long as the news was making democracy seem scary as fuck and that speeding is the most dangerous thing in the entire world i think canada would embrace canada as a dictatorship and would think death penalty for speeding is the best thing since sliced bread
people who speed even 4km/h over the limit are complete fucking scum who can kill people
innocent people!
my children could die because of your carelessness!!!
my children, my poor beautiful children!!!!
and besides even if we say a lot of people did "revolt" what the fuck are they gonna do
canada would just implement martial law and just fucking kill anyone who did revolt
and its not like the fucking people are going to do anything about it
the canadian army are so fucking brainwashed anyway i am sure they would have 0 troubles killing unarmed mothers and children if they were "traitors"
if germans who really didnt even believe in the nazi regime and were just soldiers just because were shooting babies in the head i highly doubt the canadian army would stand up for its people and save the innocent
i suppose i have strayed from putting black boxes into cars to stephen harper declaring himself a dictator so oops

ho. ly. fuck. 90% of that post was completely uncalled for and based on opinion, not fact. jesus.

yeah but hes got balls to say it

i agree with him to

but this is all off topic

Harper is a Robot and it is not in his programming to do any of that. He deoesn't need to be a dictator to pass outrageous laws, he just has to wait for a crisis.... in theory.

1eightySX wrote:

Harper is a Robot and it is not in his programming to do any of that. He deoesn't need to be a dictator to pass outrageous laws, he just has to wait for a crisis.... in theory.

Why wait if you can cause your own :O

1eightySX wrote:

Harper is a Robot and it is not in his programming to do any of that. He deoesn't need to be a dictator to pass outrageous laws, he just has to wait for a crisis.... in theory.

i wasent saying he would/would even have to declare himself a dictator
i was just throwing out some extreme situation to raise shit cause I am a homosexual.

I get what you said. I, in fact am just raising a point as well.... believe it or not, I didn't think you actually thought Canada would turn to a dictatorship.

That was actually an interesting little read. Where did you get it from? Links?

seen it on zilvia...here link to the full article
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/FREE/809189970/1506/rss01&rssfeed=rss01

Wow that is interesting and I don't blame him one bit. You buy a 50+grand car(im not sure on sticker price for a new GTR) but you buy a car like that to race/beat on, its a freaking preformance car for fuck sakes.

I'm sure lots of companies will be as flexible as possible when it comes down to it. This is a perfect example that these cars are meant for performance (mainly) and style. If you're not even allowed to open them up why waste the money.

Well, not quite. Companies will see this as a way to void warranty if something on the car breaks due to abuse. So it may be a good thing for companies to consider. I wonder what the final say will be.

by the time i can afford a BRAND new car, i wont have to worry about driving it hard, and im not sure how many people here plan to be doctors/race car drivers, so who care? if you have the money to buy a new car like that, youll have the money to fix it after you fuck it up.

You know my master plan all too well

I could see this from "lesser" companies who might be worried about the quality of the product they are selling. Maybe they aren't sure their stuff can deal with it? I still have my reservations that this will happen. Many companies pride themselves on their performance cars. Someone call me on this in 2012, but from now on, this is where I stand.

If you keep reading the thread on zilvia, someone mentions that the computer can be disabled, others also mention that a stand alone system may be able to bypass it. Another person said that they only record 5 seconds before the air bag is deployed. I don't know how true any of these things are but I would take it into consideration. Also, I think other car companies have started this. Anyway, how much information could one of these boxes hold or does it only fill with data when something breaks? I really don't know how they work, chances are I will never buy a brand new car unless I make a lot of money and even then the car would be a DD while under warranty. So if this only affect the warranty issues, I don't care as I have never had a car that came with a warranty, so I won't miss it.

Anyway, what I find more surprising is him not getting the GTR... come on!

P.S.

Corey, the GTR's MRSP was $70,000 U.S, it has been bumped up by $7,000 I believe. However, dealerships are making sure to take their cut of the profit and have jacked the price up.

P.P.S I want one.....

Holy shit that's a large price tag on those GT-R's! Although I guess that is one hell of a car, even for the modern designing it does have a sexy appeal.

You said that someone mentioned disabling the black box, wouldn't that be the biggest warranty void hands down?

corey wrote:

Holy shit that's a large price tag on those GT-R's! Although I guess that is one hell of a car, even for the modern designing it does have a sexy appeal.

You said that someone mentioned disabling the black box, wouldn't that be the biggest warranty void hands down?

r35's are horrendously looking fat ugly pigs that only come in automatics
down playing it a bit perhaps but i still wouldnt want one

corey wrote:

Holy shit that's a large price tag on those GT-R's! Although I guess that is one hell of a car, even for the modern designing it does have a sexy appeal.

You said that someone mentioned disabling the black box, wouldn't that be the biggest warranty void hands down?

Have you read anything about it...?

here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c9EXPpgq7U

It is a effing steal at that price.

If only it was a manual thatd be off the charts

1eightySX wrote:

corey wrote:

Holy shit that's a large price tag on those GT-R's! Although I guess that is one hell of a car, even for the modern designing it does have a sexy appeal.

You said that someone mentioned disabling the black box, wouldn't that be the biggest warranty void hands down?

Have you read anything about it...?

here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c9EXPpgq7U

It is a effing steal at that price.

Okay Ryan, I am impressed with the attention to detail and the fact it comes out of the factory basically as a full out race car.
However that rear end is very unattractive almost hideous (personal preference)
And not offered in a 5/6speed? Really? That is rather a downer.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills, the race car driver said he liked it just fine... check out the HKS turbo upgrade... oh and the results it get once the ecu is hacked.... Porshe can go fist themselves.

READ THIS ON NICO FORUM.

Quote :

One of my techs just got back from a special Nissan training GTR deal. Here are some interesting Facts.
-Can only launch the car 15 times before the transmission gives out. The most Nissan has got was 34 launches.
-The fluid lists at 80 dollars a quart. It costs dealerships 49.99 a quart. The car takes 10 quarts.
-The warranty depends on the driving, there is a black box in it just like an airplane.
-Customers have to sign a waiver stating they will not complain about brake or transmission noise.
-The brakes MUST be replaced at the same time, cost for replacing 6500.
-If something goes wrong other than an oil change at the dealership, a special team needs to be called and your outta a car for a while.

Sounds promising!

Not such a good deal anymore...

Veedub wrote:

Not such a good deal anymore...

i would imagine this would be much the same for other really high end stuff like koenigseggs and whatnot
and since it has supercar performance without the supercar price tag
its still a fucking good deal