Drifting: length and wheelbase

So thanks to Jesse Exner I really wanna try drifting this season. That being said I am way to much of a pussy to beat on my GTR that hard and if I hit a wall I might kill myself with self loathing.

What I wanna do is turn my 67 MG midget into a drift car, now I'm not getting into specifics on it so dont worry about it.

What I'm looking for is info on drifting and length and possibly links to short wheelbase drift cars. The car is fuckin small a foot and a half shorter then jhalls miata and a 9" shorter wheelbase as well. What kind of disadvantage will this put me at. With the right steering mods would I be able to attempt some decent drifts?

Thanks

Awesome I have a 68 Midget. Needs re-assembly mostly, but I will get there in the next few years.


Where do you live? There is a white one right by my house, and it looks to be a MKIII, so it could be a 67?

You have one of the most iconic drift cars in the world and you don't want to drift it? What a god damn shame!

abs0Lut wrote:

You have one of the most iconic drift cars in the world and you don't want to drift it? What a god damn shame!

What he has a AE86, or S -Chassis!

1eightySX wrote:

abs0Lut wrote:

You have one of the most iconic drift cars in the world and you don't want to drift it? What a god damn shame!

What he has a AE86, or S -Chassis!

hehehhe

lol cam, Paul from Alberta drives a old corolla which might be slightly bigger than the MG and basically has only done suspension and handling mods to make it drift the way it does. Benoit and Jordan know a lot about i believe?

djStewzy wrote:

lol cam, Paul from Alberta drives a old corolla which might be slightly bigger than the MG and basically has only done suspension and handling mods to make it drift the way it does. Benoit and Jordan know a lot about i believe?

Paul's car is DMCC spec, so it has a full cage and everything. He runs altered leaf springs in the back and custum suspension in the front. Paul modded things to fit, so he has the aftermarket steering angle kits for added angle , and I think I may have heard him say that the engine is pushed back a little further then stock for better weight distibtution. (I may just be making that up) I think his front fenders are fiber glass, and the engine is not stock but I don't remeber specifics, I just remeber it is not turbo'd. His car slays on tight parts of the track but can't really keep up in the banks.

Honestly, I think so much stuff was custom it is hard to describe.

Paul's car is pretty impresive. He is also a rad a guy. Message him and he could give you some pointers.

I assume you will encounter many of the problems he has so keep that in mind before you start and consider where the car will be driven.

Doesnt a midget have like 63HP, and super flimsy/weak....well everything?

this is about wheelbase and to answer you question in the easiest way possbile cam

your car wont be as stable and controllable as a longer wheelbase care like a soarer.

it will still do everything else another car will do, but youll have to be much quicker with the wheel and on your a-game most of the time.

1eightySX wrote:

djStewzy wrote:

lol cam, Paul from Alberta drives a old corolla which might be slightly bigger than the MG and basically has only done suspension and handling mods to make it drift the way it does. Benoit and Jordan know a lot about i believe?

Paul's car is DMCC spec, so it has a full cage and everything. He runs altered leaf springs in the back and custum suspension in the front. Paul modded things to fit, so he has the aftermarket steering angle kits for added angle , and I think I may have heard him say that the engine is pushed back a little further then stock for better weight distibtution. (I may just be making that up) I think his front fenders are fiber glass, and the engine is not stock but I don't remeber specifics, I just remeber it is not turbo'd. His car slays on tight parts of the track but can't really keep up in the banks.

Honestly, I think so much stuff was custom it is hard to describe.

Paul's car is pretty impresive. He is also a rad a guy. Message him and he could give you some pointers.

I assume you will encounter many of the problems he has so keep that in mind before you start and consider where the car will be driven.

yes his motor is pushed back. and yes almost everything in his car he made haha

Heretic wrote:

Awesome I have a 68 Midget. Needs re-assembly mostly, but I will get there in the next few years.


Where do you live? There is a white one right by my house, and it looks to be a MKIII, so it could be a 67?

Awesome man! Have u worked on it much, And I live in the south end

240sxy wrote:

this is about wheelbase and to answer you question in the easiest way possbile cam

your car wont be as stable and controllable as a longer wheelbase care like a soarer.

it will still do everything else another car will do, but youll have to be much quicker with the wheel and on your a-game most of the time.

the truth

c.mayer wrote:

Doesnt a midget have like 63HP, and super flimsy/weak....well everything?

Yes and yes. This is a Midget front shock

Moneypits wrote:

Heretic wrote:

Awesome I have a 68 Midget. Needs re-assembly mostly, but I will get there in the next few years.


Where do you live? There is a white one right by my house, and it looks to be a MKIII, so it could be a 67?

Awesome man! Have u worked on it much, And I live in the south end

Ahh not you then, the guy with the white one lives up in Lakewood. I haven't really touched mine in years. My flywheel had a bunch of missing teeth and I was having a hard time finding one, so I just kinda let it sit. I'll be working on it again this summer.

Heretic wrote:

I'll be working on it again this summer.

Hellaflush it BRO, so SICK bro!

On a more serious note, put an F20C in it.

Ya I'd be fabricating my own suspension for sure among other things at this stage it's just a very possible dream

abs0Lut wrote:

Heretic wrote:

I'll be working on it again this summer.

Hellaflush it BRO, so SICK bro!

On a more serious note, put an F20C in it.

Mine is going vintage racer style, Very low with no windscreen, no bumpers,a roll bar. probably with numbers on the doors and hood. But I'm thinking pale blue with white number circle.





Speaking of F20 swaps.
I've seen pictures of that, it would be pretty white knuckle to drive.. They feel so fast with only 60hp, just because they are so small and stiff. You peel out everywhere by accident. You're not going very fast but the sensation of speed is very much amplified. And nothing on a Midget/Sprite is really up to the task of that much power. It would have to be mostly a custom race car with modern design brakes, steering system, suspension etc. and just a Midget body. Luckily people still race Sprites and Midgets so upgraded performance parts are still available

The good news a Midget weighs around 1500lbs! It would definitely be fast!









Here's a 4AGE powered Midget. This is just an average guy with an average backyard garage, It's certainly not all very pretty. but it really shows how tight a Midget bay is and some of the problems you run into.
http://home.earthlink.net/~roethler/engine.html
(If however you wanted to go all out and tube framed from the firewall forward, you could run pretty much any engine, suspension, steering setup you wanted to, even an LS6 )

abs0Lut wrote:

Heretic wrote:

I'll be working on it again this summer.

Hellaflush it BRO, so SICK bro!

On a more serious note, put an F20C in it.

ughh why do you post.

abs0Lut wrote:

Heretic wrote:

I'll be working on it again this summer.

put an F20C in it BRO, so SICK bro!

On a more serious note,Hellaflush .

Fixed for Honda fanboy-ness equivilant.