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PostSubject: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 22nd 2009, 11:25 pm

does anyone have a code reader i could borrow or if theyre so inclined come over and use on my car, fixed the emanage, but still throwing engine code(s)
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does anyone have a code reader i could borrow or if theyre so inclined come over and use on my car, fixed the emanage, but still throwing engine code(s)

parts source lets you use there code readers!!! free
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 22nd 2009, 11:39 pm

take them home tho?
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Moneypits wrote:
take them home tho?

they come into the parking lot with you and watch you plug them in and whatever but if you cant get your car there they might be nice enough to let you like sign one out for a day........... Justin ziplitney is your friend right so just ask him when he is working!
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maybe i can leave a returnable deposit
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 23rd 2009, 12:54 am

why don't you just do the jumper wire
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cuonger69 wrote:
why don't you just do the jumper wire
what you mean?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 23rd 2009, 1:15 am

like so http://www.c-speedracing.com/faq/06.php

list of codes

1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
12 EGR - exhaust gas recirculation lift valve
13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor
14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve
15 Ignition output signal
16 Fuel injectors
17 VSS - speed sensor
19 Automatic transmission lockup control valve
20 Electrical load detector
21 VTEC spool solenoid valve
22 VTEC pressure valve
23 Knock sensor
30 Automatic transmission A signal
31 Automatic transmission B signal
36 traction control found on JDM ecu's
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
43 Fuel supply system
45 Fuel system too rich or lean
48 LAF - lean air fuel sensor
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
58 TDC sensor #2
61 Primary oxygen sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor
65 Secondary oxygen sensor heater
71 random misfire cylinder 1
72 random misfire cylinder 2
73 random misfire cylinder 3
74 random misfire cylinder 4
80 Exhaust Gas Recirculation insufficient flow detected
86 ECT Sensor (Engine Coolant Temperature) circuit range / performance problem
90 Evaporative Emission Control System leak detected in the fuel tank area
91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor low input
92 Evaporative Emission Control System insufficient purge flow
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 23rd 2009, 1:23 am

o nice definatly gonna try this tomorrow
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 23rd 2009, 4:22 pm

ok well i read my code, its 41

O2 sensor surprise suprise i know its throwing a code cause im running to rich but does anyone know how to tune or the basics behind tuning that could come help me?

I hooked my laptop up the emanage made some minor peremeter adjustments as injectors size and stuff now it starts up fine than dies cause i dunno how to tune the rest,

Anyone able to help that knows some tuning? be greatly appreciated and theres a free supper in it for you if you can get it going
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ok well i read my code, its 41

O2 sensor surprise suprise i know its throwing a code cause im running to rich but does anyone know how to tune or the basics behind tuning that could come help me?

I hooked my laptop up the emanage made some minor peremeter adjustments as injectors size and stuff now it starts up fine than dies cause i dunno how to tune the rest,

Anyone able to help that knows some tuning? be greatly appreciated and theres a free supper in it for you if you can get it going

I thought you said it was going to be easy..

If it starts, then immediately dies, that sounds like a wicked vaccuum leak. or something to do with your MAF. If I were to start my car without my AFM hooked up, it would just die. Check that.

Surely there has to be a emanage thread for turbo civics on a much larger honda forum?
Maybe befriend Adrian, I hear he is good at that sort of stuff.
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I'd love to get some experience learning how to do this, so if I have time this weekend, I will stop by, and give it a shot.
I'll affix your door cards as well
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Marshal wrote:
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ok well i read my code, its 41

O2 sensor surprise suprise i know its throwing a code cause im running to rich but does anyone know how to tune or the basics behind tuning that could come help me?

I hooked my laptop up the emanage made some minor peremeter adjustments as injectors size and stuff now it starts up fine than dies cause i dunno how to tune the rest,

Anyone able to help that knows some tuning? be greatly appreciated and theres a free supper in it for you if you can get it going

I thought you said it was going to be easy..

If it starts, then immediately dies, that sounds like a wicked vaccuum leak. or something to do with your MAF. If I were to start my car without my AFM hooked up, it would just die. Check that.

Surely there has to be a emanage thread for turbo civics on a much larger honda forum?
Maybe befriend Adrian, I hear he is good at that sort of stuff.

well i mean it seems easy but it cant be vacuum leak cause it started before i made changes to the emanage and it started and ran, now that the emanage is actually functioning as a piggy back its reading different settings than the stock ecu and since i didnt make any changes to fuel map i think its just dying out.

Ive looked for emanage thread but unfortunately most honda owners use hondata, fuckin stupid IMO to confusing and not use friendly. So not much information for hondas

and im hoping adrian pipes up haha ( freeee suppperrrrr)
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is it getting too much fuel or not enough? can you smell unburt fuel i mean?
What does your wideband tell you, lean/rich?
Can you keep it running by giving it gas(the car will still run like garbage), but it will allow you to take some readings.
When in doubt, restore the old settings and see what happens.
Maybe you are going about it backwards? I haven't read anything about it, so i am grasping at straws
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is it getting too much fuel or not enough? can you smell unburt fuel i mean?
What does your wideband tell you, lean/rich?
Can you keep it running by giving it gas(the car will still run like garbage), but it will allow you to take some readings.
When in doubt, restore the old settings and see what happens.
Maybe you are going about it backwards? I haven't read anything about it, so i am grasping at straws

way to much fuel and id love to hook up my wideband into my POS downpipe but minute muffler fucked it up so i have to get yet another bung put into it lol fuckin downpipe is made of bungs by now.
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Moneypits wrote:
Marshal wrote:
is it getting too much fuel or not enough? can you smell unburt fuel i mean?
What does your wideband tell you, lean/rich?
Can you keep it running by giving it gas(the car will still run like garbage), but it will allow you to take some readings.
When in doubt, restore the old settings and see what happens.
Maybe you are going about it backwards? I haven't read anything about it, so i am grasping at straws

way to much fuel and id love to hook up my wideband into my POS downpipe but minute muffler fucked it up so i have to get yet another bung put into it lol fuckin downpipe is made of bungs by now.

sounds like Evan's...

Well, then on inital start-up, and idle, turn the fuel down until you can get it to idle properly. Really, this is all useless unless you have an o2 sensor plugged in.
I've only ever played around with megasquirt, so I have no idea if you can adjsut idle maps with a piggyback
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i have the O2 just not the wideband O2 in
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can you give any more info? whata and where can you adjust with the emanage
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you can adjust injectors cycle duty, ignition timing, fuel maps, AAV. etc all through my laptop
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you can adjust injectors cycle duty, ignition timing, fuel maps, AAV. etc all through my laptop
thats all fantastic. now, give it less fuel on cold starts, and idle
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yeah my problem is i dont exactly know how like whats safe to set it at and what not, and not quite a full understanding of the numbers and percentages for each 100 rpm level etc.
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lower it until gradually until it idles.
running rich is not good for your car either.
In all essence, its all trial and error until you get a wideband to check it with.
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but lower what like its set up like a excel document and you adjust for every rpm level along with every percentage level and its all very confusing cause i dont quite understand the program and greddy only sends japanese version manuals and the english manuals dont explain nearly as well
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but lower what like its set up like a excel document and you adjust for every rpm level along with every percentage level and its all very confusing cause i dont quite understand the program and greddy only sends japanese version manuals and the english manuals dont explain nearly as well

*face palm*
lets say your car idles at 900rpms.
lower the amount of fuel going to the engine by 25% at 800,900,1000,1100,1200 rpms. see if that fixes anything.
there has to be a forum on how to tune greddy emanage
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PostSubject: Re: WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader   WTB(orrow) OBD1 Code reader Icon_minitimeApril 23rd 2009, 6:03 pm

With the car plugged into the emanage, start the car. after starting the car, in the bottom will show the system is online. opening up the injector map, and now select the "MAP TRACE" icon next to the car parameters icon.

This will now trace the fuel cells that you are touching with different throttle positions. Go for a drive and notice the fuel cells will begin to highlight and move across the board. Do a simple third gear pull and notice the cells begin to move down across the board.

these cells that you touched with the map is the percentage amount of fuel that the injectors are pushing. Example 40 = 40% of fuel in the RPM cross section of what "Y" you have programmed. on the left. With the cells that you just traced at different section you can add .5 amount of fuel with "page UP" button of take fuel with "page DOWN" button.

You want the curve of fuel to move nice and not have any jerking or jumps. example going from 30% to 60% is large instead going from 30-45-60 closer the better but also with a need of more cells.

if that does not help you understand, call Greddy, and ask for Mitch. He will walk you through how to set up a map for your car to idle.
Although, you will not be able to do much until you have a wideband. becasue you will not be able to tell how rich or how lean you are running
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